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Am I Really going to do that to my fireplace!? #1: Some Materials gathered and I'm dying to start!

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Once again, I have totally lost my mind. Demo is not done. I haven’t built a scaffold. I don’t have the fireplace stone veener. I haven’t bought my wood floor for the living room. The hallway is not complete. There are a bazillion reasons why I shouldn’t start and yet…..

I’ve got to take a few breaths and delay for a while while I think about execution and the layout of what I’m thinking. The more days I can do that, the better off I will be. If I just force myself to wait for the hall to be finished. I can complete some of the ideas in my head. Maybe I can get them on paper.

Here is what I’m talking about.

The wall that my fireplace dominates is either all brick, a standard threshold to the den and a large threashold to the bar. On the den side, I have 42 inches of brick wall. On the bar side, I have just a pinch under 2 feet of brick wall. I don’t want to veneer the whole thing. I had good suggestions to sheetrock and I THOUGHT I was going to do that. The crazy ideas started coming and I decided to give them a chance. Today, I went to a surplus outlet and found the one item I needed to tip me over the edge. I found 46 square feet of bevelled red travertine. I saw it and got all excited.

I am going to make a large scale mosaic on both walls out of the following materials.

This a knock out sandstone tile that I scored 10 of about 5 months ago. $4

Of course, I already mentioned the red travertine for 1.49 (Had to buy entire lot)

Left over birch from my dining room. I suppose I have 12 square feet. $ 3.29 a foot or free depending on how you look at it.

29 feet of Oak flooring I found 3 months ago for $15 (Whole box)

19 some odd feet of the dark wood for $10 last week (Whole box), It looks like maple stained dark but I really don’t know.

All the wood is engineered.

What I need to do is sit on my hands and NOT start just yet. I was thinking of making a few copper tiles with deep patina running though it. What I will do is plan it out while I finish the hall. Maybe I can get my jollies by sealing the face of the sandstone and red travertine.

I have gone off the deep end like this 11 times in the last year. Only twice did I do something that failed to wow me but I still like them anyway. (Plinths and rosettes are 1 of the 2.)

I’m going to trust the success of my previous nutso ideas and believe that I will like my mosaic at a bare minimum.

Now I think I’m correct that I should do the walls first. I also think that I should space them from the floor to be at least 1/16th inch higher than my flooring will be. Perhaps you have a better suggestion.

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.



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posted 08-12-2012 02:48 AM

Found an inexpensive source for stone veneer today. 300 a palet. A palet is enough to to the entire fireplace and sides. Truth is that I may prefer doing it the way I described in the previous post – but my wife is far more conservative. In the meantime, I have all those remnants to figure out what to do with.

They didn’t have enough river stone available so I’m going to keep calling until they do.

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-12-2012 03:44 PM

I had to check this out … so curious.

How wonderful it must be to be a designer, artist, AND builder. I have ideas but that’s where they sit.

I bet this is going to be gorgeous.

Congrats on all of the discount items.

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-12-2012 05:23 PM

Thanks Debbie. My creativity has cost me a lot of time and money in the past. I always get the jitters before I do something like this. This will the hardest to undo yet. I’m nervous about it. If I don’t do the brick walls that way, I know the stone will like nice. But it won’t be mine either.

My heart is beating faster. It feels like the time I stood at the edge of the 10 meter diving platform for the first time. It feels like a huge risk.

Just to let you know, your encouragement really means a lot!

Mark

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-12-2012 10:51 PM

:)

I would guess that if you don’t “go for it” that it will never truly make you smile… you will only see what could have been.
If it goes awry well then you can say, “I had to do it… it was a costly experiment but I had to do it and I’m glad that I did!”

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-13-2012 02:32 AM

That’s it!!!

I’m going to do it. If I hate it, I’m hiring Gary, J, and Debbie to fix it. This is an idea of what the walls will look like. I may need to pick out some less redish tile.

The fileplace I borrowed for the center was not such a random selection. Sorry J. Your awesome Fireplace doesn’t fit with my insanity.

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-13-2012 09:31 AM

you’ll ask me to help fix it?? hmmm from bad to worse – not a good plan, perhaps.
But I’m very good at handing tools as they are needed.

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-13-2012 09:21 PM

You’re hired!

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posted 08-13-2012 11:51 PM

Go ahead…....Take a walk on the wild side!

-- The difference between a pro and an amateur, an amateur points out his mistakes

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posted 08-14-2012 02:03 AM

Did you start? What’s the hold up? Heck, you still have 2-hours to play in your garage until the neighbors will get angry. My vote is with the professionals. I’m not as ambitious as Gary (I wouldn’t take a walk on the wild side), but certainly the concept looks good (and doable).

I hope to see a good start to the project by morning. I’ll be nodding off to sleep shortly, so it’ll give you time to work. Now shut down your computer and get some things accomplished!! :)

-- No matter how many times I measure, I always forget the dimensions before I cut.

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posted 08-14-2012 02:23 AM

I’ll have to admit it has a psychedelic 60’s look to it. Not my taste but if like it, go for it.
I’m with Billy on the nodding off time….........................................................................................
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-- The difference between a pro and an amateur, an amateur points out his mistakes

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posted 08-14-2012 04:19 AM

Guys,

I was about to get busy but I logged on for some of home refurbers wisdom. I found some wisdom that agrees with the fact that I have lost my mind. But what really hurts – and you guys did hurt me – is the hernia I got from laughing. That ought to set me back a week.

I still need about $1500 in supplies. Mostly for the dynamite. Some for the initial demo and 2 sticks in case I hate the walls. Anyhow, when you guys wake up. Please send me a check or the stone veneer or the wood floor. Heck, I’ll settle for 10 gallons of urethane glue.

I’ll get moving this week. :)

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-14-2012 09:36 AM

I got off easy … it’s not costing me a cent and all I have to do is hand the tools!!
hey—that doesn’t include the dynamite, does it?

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-14-2012 12:27 PM

Debbie,

Oh no, dynamite Is definitely a supply. The remote controlled detonator is a tool though. Do you have one in your tool chest?

Zero progress last night. We went out for my wife’s 53’rd birthday. My son and I worked on his parallel parking skills for the big drivers test today. My daughter (11) handled the birthday pie while I assembled the outdoor fire pit. We sang to my wife then I helped my son replace a tube on his 10 speed.

I hope Billy and Gary give me a pass. Miss Debbie is the only one who isn’t cracking the whip!

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-14-2012 02:39 PM

I’m a very good cheerleader but not so good a whip-cracking. I’m a good side-kick :D

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-14-2012 09:55 PM

This is where the cooling off period helps. I’ve made no bones about it. I want to launch into redoing the brick side walls of the fireplace immediately. If I did that, I would have 18 gazillion afterthoughts and I could possibly end up with something I just have to live with or invest an extra month of time into project undo and redo Purgatory. I vote for neither.

In my mind, it doesn’t make an ounce of difference whether I use my insane concept or the stone veneer concept because I want to know what something will look like and how to construct it before I start (Famous last words). At this point – I don’t have the complete picture.

Right now I’m thinking about trim. There is Crown and threshold trim to contend with. There are beams that run 20 feet across the ceiling of the room. The beams appear to be just stained 1 bys and are there for appearance.

I’ll share one issue I’m struggling with. The sides of the brick are currently exposed with a piece of door trim covering them from floor to ceiling. When I add my crazy design or the stone veneer to the side wall of the fireplace. How will I cover that up? Right now I can add the illusion of a support beam from floor to ceiling. The beam will match the support beams across the ceiling. On one side I can build it over the brick 6 inches to make the side wall appear to be 3 feet across. On the other side, I only have 2 feet to start with. I either will either have to forgo my crazy design or build the beam out and away from the wall. It occurs to me that by using the stone veneer everywhere, I won’t have to worry about the odd measurements or about making a beam that appears to be 6 inches thick.

Yeah so – I hate to be a bunch of talk about this project but I need to put it on the back burner until I have everything sorted. I still haven’t prepared the garage for the next project. I also have trim work to deal with in 4 other rooms. I’ll keep quite busy until I’m really ready.

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-15-2012 12:50 AM

since I am the the tool holder, I’ll “hold that thought” for you as you continue to think through the plan.

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-15-2012 03:37 AM

Debbie, I appreciate the thought. I decided to get a set of drapes for the dining room out of the way. I cut them tonight. I’ll get them sewn up tommorow. Go ahead and bring the drill on Thursday. We’ll get them hung up. ;)

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-15-2012 09:15 AM

haha I’m on my way.

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-16-2012 02:29 AM

Definitely get your ducks in a row before leaping forward. The best plan is a flexible plan but there still needs to be a plan.
Who needs a remote control detonator….I’m sure Deb has a real short piece of fuse in her toolbox….light and run like h….!!

-- The difference between a pro and an amateur, an amateur points out his mistakes

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posted 08-16-2012 09:46 AM

I’ll have a look ….

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-16-2012 12:24 PM

Gary,

Getting a plan and being flexible. I can definitely see that.

It would be a lot faster if I had your experience. All these little problems I try to solve in my head take time. Especially when I dwell on a solution for a while and discover that it causes a problem somewhere else. Then I try to solve that one and so on and so on. Then, I end up with something I can’t solve.

At that point I back up a few problems and start thinking again.

You have this mental toolbox of solutions. You have solved most of the issues before and have probably refined your approach several times over. That’s part of the journey to becoming a master.

I do everything I can to try and make it look like a master did my work. So far, nothing looks that way but I am becoming more and more pleased with my work. The scary thought is this. When I get the last project completed, will I want to redo the first? It’s already looking that way.

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-16-2012 02:16 PM

as a consultant re: behaviour and personal growth, I am intrigued by this discussion.

Being aware of how we think, make choices, plan (or don’t plan) helps us takes steps to prevent problems (and poor choices) and to use or strengths to our benefit.

forcing one’s self to step back, pause, and take some time to think before leaping is a very good (and sometimes challenging) strategy!

I look forward to seeing how this plan plays out.

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 08-17-2012 12:28 AM

Debbie,

You said it’s sometimes challenging to look before you leap. I happen to suffer greatly from impulsiveness. I am so fortunate that I have a lot of projects to do. Quite a few of them are projects I have already thought through. They may not be as exciting, artistic or major as the fireplace. But they need to get done. They satisfy my need to keep the ball rolling. I’m going to say I’m VERY fortunate. Otherwise, I’d already be making posts asking anybody if they could save me. I was literally a hair away from plunging into the work.

You know, if impulsiveness were always accompanied with good common sense I’d be a millionaire by now. As it stands, I am the antithesis of good common sense and careful consideration. Like you said, it’s hard to step back. I’m just thankful for every time I do. I’m beginning to see that stepping back does not always save me from mistakes or afterthoughts, but it sure minimizes the impacts.

I’m going to call my therapist and cancel this weeks session. ;) Seriously though, I believe you are right on the money.

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 08-24-2012 10:18 PM

I just found this post and I have to say that’s funny Mark. I was thinking hey that looks like the Sentinel fireplace I just put in a couple weeks back… wait a sec, that is the same brickwork I used too and the grout lines are dark too…oh hey, I recognize that fireplace lol.

-- I found the board stretcher... finally!

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posted 08-25-2012 03:53 AM

J,

That strikes me as very funny. I was hoping you would get a kick out of it. ;)

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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posted 01-07-2013 02:21 AM

I agree that it is always good to think things through for awhile before settling down to what you think is the best solution out. Anyway, I am absolutely loving the mosaic layout. Such a unique concept and creates a very refreshing look to the chimney. I like the overall layering of the different coats of pattern which looks modern and all in all, it is a neat end result.

-- Fred Rodriguez - http://www.algrip.com

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posted 01-07-2013 08:59 AM

I missed your response …. saved money on therapy= more money for renovating!

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 01-08-2013 11:18 PM

Well – I thought about it. I finished the living room without changing the fireplace. Surprise of all surprises, Martha came up to me and Said – “I want a tiled fireplace!”

I’ll make a prediction – tiled fireplaces will be outdated by March of 2013.

The look I like is being called dated on the DIY network. Hmmmm. Maybe I should leave the old brick??? Perhaps that will be the “New” look in April of 2013?

Good Therapy advise Deb.
Fred, I chickened out. I didn’t make it come true. What’s worse is I’m stuck with all the remnants I bought for the side walls. I’ll get creative with them later.

-- Working on my home for 2 years and counting.

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