a humbled carpenter

Project by dennis posted 06-18-2008 01:54 AM 4719 views 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I was thinking with all my woodworking/furniture/carpenter skills that installing a T & G knotty pine interior would be a piece of cake. I was wrong. It might have been the great deal I got on the pine…you get what you pay for. This pine was bent warped and twisted….and cheap. I know my butt joints should have been cut at 45’s to hide the shrinkage, but with the extremes I was going to just to get them to fit next to each other I kinda blew that off. I spent weeks getting this done. I was also hoping to use long lengths but ended up having to use random lengths just to cut out the bow. Today I can live with it but if I had spent that extra $1000 on a better grade I would be a lot happier! The job was finished with 10 gals of lacquer, took just a day. Maybe I should have been a painter.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 06-18-2008 04:16 AM

I hear ya, Brother. I only did the ceiling with the pine t & G, in the house we had in Maine. I couldn’t believe the time it took either. I made the mistake of painting it. Two coats of primer/sealer and three coats of paint and the knots would still bleed through after about a month. When we sold the house, the day before I listed it I was painting that ceiling again. At least it lasted until I sold it.

-- Tim

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posted 06-18-2008 07:59 PM

I feel your pain, I did 15 cabins, in Ct and big Lodge all the low grade crap.The first few cabins I 45 ed the joints, but by the end I just butt jointed the boards with a biscuit, and it seem to work out better than the 45. Over all I was happy with the job, but I swear I would never do T&G pine walls and ceiling again of coarse I did end up doing a couple more small houses, but I talked them in to using premium grade lumber, boy what a difference that made. looks like a nice space hope you enjoy it.

-- Joey ~~ Sabina, Ohio http://sleepydogwoodworking.wordpress.com/

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posted 06-18-2008 11:12 PM

I had a feeling the pine spent all of 30 seconds in the kiln.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 06-22-2008 09:32 PM

what I really like is when you order 1000 Ln Ft and its comes late then its all 8’ and shorter boards and all you left to do is the long runs that makes the job just so special lol the good old days

-- Joey ~~ Sabina, Ohio http://sleepydogwoodworking.wordpress.com/

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posted 07-02-2008 12:34 AM

It looks really nice from here Dennis, nice job.

I installed knotty white spruce paneling, that I bought right from a local sawmill.

That was back in 1955. I didn’t know a thing about kiln dried lumber at the time.

It shrunk quite a bit, & you could see the insulation through the gaps.

About 10 years later I tore it all off, & made some beautiful raised panel kitchen cabinets out of it.

No more shrinkage, & we still have them to this day.

-- ** Dick, & Barb Cain *************** http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/Chipncut

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posted 07-08-2008 07:12 PM

... but it still looks pretty impressive to me!
Hey, maybe you can say that you did it all on purpose to give that rustic appearance!

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 07-30-2008 11:27 PM

It really does look nice, Dennis! I hope it’s a room that you can go into and enjoy, and not curse the pine… lol.

Great job! I like the rustic look of it.

I’ve had a few of those situations where I was humbled… I’ll get into a project and then go, “Geez! What in the Heck was I thinking??? Surely I’m smarter than THIS!!”... lol.

-- --Steve

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posted 08-27-2008 12:56 AM

i feel your pain on the cheap stuff dennis . i did 4 huge walkin closets with that in aromatic cedar . i under priced the job so bad the guy gave me an exta 400.00 . !! i was quite shocked but i took it and said thank you ! lol and thats my good luck story for this era ! lol

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posted 09-22-2008 07:50 PM

We all can use some good luck like that once in a while.

-- Bill - Turlock, Ca. - http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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posted 09-24-2008 05:00 PM

Nice job. EVERY job has it’s pitfalls, it’s how we deal with them while keeping our composure and figuring a way through it that makes us happier campers in the long run. I can’t tell you how many hissy-fits I’ve thrown in my early days with woodwork. Well… maybe I can but that’s beside the point now. HA!

But I feel your pain with shoddy materials. My only caveat would be to inspect your material thoroughly before you buy and ALWAYS be specific with a vendor to whom your purchasing from sight-unseen. Be cordial and professional and always use their name in conversing. Ask if you can refer to them in any future transactions. If not, then you need to find a vendor that can and will become your advocate. AND that’s the problem with the Big Box stores, it’s difficult to create/maintain a working relationship with someone who might be reassigned to the damned garden department or worse… wall papers!


-- "Imagination is more important than knowledge" -- Albert Einstein

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posted 09-25-2008 03:00 AM

My greatest fear is the economy going so far south I have to wear an orange vest….scary.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 02-09-2010 08:06 PM

How’s that orange vest working out for ya? I like this job. I did a lot of verticle paneling like this as a youngin with my Dad. I always liked doing this, kinda of like library paneling and wainscoting. Quite and seemingly simple, best done alone .IMHO

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posted 02-11-2010 03:40 AM

No orange vest yet….heck no ones hiring.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 02-11-2010 07:41 AM

Same here, it’s quite slow.

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posted 02-11-2010 05:21 PM

Looks nice.


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