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Project by dennis posted 04-03-2008 05:04 AM 5100 views 2 times favorited 29 comments Add to Favorites Watch

I live in a handmade strawbale house. I’ve tried to avoid economy or standard building practices at every turn. I can claim ignorance and just enough knowledge to get into real trouble. When you tell people you live in a mud hut they tend to take pity on you….I’m growing to like that. This type of strawbale uses a frame to support the roof. The economical way would have been to build load bearing walls out of straw, but I wanted to use logs.
I used pine logs for the posts. A family picnic made a great day at the mountains. I had never cut down a tree before. Let alone a 100’ tall pine. These are beetle killed pines. The logs have lots of character. I use them in my furniture all the time. The beams are Fur 8X10’s from a local family owned sawmill. I planned on using time honored hand cut joinery, but just ended up screwing it all together with the biggest lag bolts I could find.
The roof is a truss/joist hybrid thing I made up in my own head. The inspector didn’t even blink and it hasn’t fallen down yet. I used 2X12’s and routed and shaped the exposed tails. The outside walls of my house are 6’ sloping 6’ to a 6’ wide flat ceiling 10’ tall that slopes back down to 6”. I finished them in 4” T&G pine.
You can see the bales beginning to go up….more later.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 04-03-2008 05:18 AM

I went with a metal roof.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 04-03-2008 05:24 AM

it looks great dennis !

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posted 04-03-2008 05:27 AM

cool idea … how much land does it sit on ? beautiful place

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posted 04-03-2008 05:50 AM

I think you’ve done well Dennis. It looks very nice. Is it about 24×36?

-- If you believe in forever, then life is just a one-night stand. ~ Righteous Brothers, "Rock & Roll Heaven"

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posted 04-03-2008 08:04 AM

Very nice work and Eco friendly

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posted 04-03-2008 12:35 PM

looks funny to see it all built around a dirt floor
if you were to build another would you do it all in this same manner or did you find a few “next time” ideas

-- ~ Debbie, Ontario Canada

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posted 04-03-2008 01:10 PM

We all should have a mud hut like this one.

-- Thos. Angle, Owyhee Design, Jordan Valley, Oregon

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posted 04-03-2008 04:49 PM

It sits on 38 acres of family land.The structure is about 20 X 50. Next time I would put down a concrete slab, just to cut down on labor. Thanks everyone!

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 04-03-2008 04:55 PM

Way to go Dennis. Any jokes about the three pigs and the big bad wolf? haha

I am looking forward to seeing more pictures.

-- Bill - Turlock, Ca. - http://www.brookswoodworks.com

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posted 04-03-2008 04:59 PM

I’m guessing you live in a location where building permits are not required. It looks like you have done some things that would not meet current code.

-- Boise,ID - If it were easy, anyone could do it!

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posted 04-03-2008 05:38 PM

No Dave it is all covered and inspected. The building inspector supplied me with lots of information and was quite helpful.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 04-03-2008 05:49 PM

Go for it bro! Keep blogging this…we’re all interested in how it turns out.

-- Dadoo!

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posted 04-03-2008 06:20 PM

Looks great. I get the same look when I say I’m cutting my own lumber for my house ;) They think of Grizzly Adams, and that I must be building a lean-to.

-- Tom, Central New York

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posted 04-03-2008 09:32 PM

This is great Dennis. Never mind the big bad wolf, you better worry about the cows, horses, and other herbivores looking to get a belly full of hay.

-- Tim

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posted 04-04-2008 06:14 AM

Thanks for sharing this Dennis. It must be a warm house.

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posted 07-30-2008 11:36 PM

Wow, Dennis… I have to know how this turned out. I’ve never seen anything like it, it’s very fascinating, very creative.

-- --Steve

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posted 01-13-2009 05:22 PM

Dennis, it has been some time, how is your house coming along?

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posted 01-13-2009 06:34 PM

We’ve moved in so naturally construction came to a screeching halt. I’ve decided I hate my cobble stone floor and am planning to put tile (Mexican Pavers) in the house as soon as I actually make some extra money. My favorite room is the bathroom which is posted in my projects on lumberjocks. (rustic bathroom cabinets) This year I worked on the landscaping so I can put the front and back porch on. Of course before I do anything else I need to get my storeroom built. Which I can’t do till I get my woodworking business back in the black. Which I can’t do till….just one day at a time. I do love this structure.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 01-13-2009 07:15 PM

I can see your love for the house and cabinetry you did. I checked out your website; very artistic. Thanks.

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posted 02-19-2009 12:27 PM

Looks great Dennis! We’re leaning towards doing something similar. We want to source wood from our property. Since the local councils here are fussy on what is acceptable for durability, I can’t use any of the 50 acres of radiata pine to build a log house ( darn, but it’s pretty poor when exposed to the elements) but I can use the red beech ( nothofagus fusca ) as timber framing and then infill with mud brick. I hope to make some dividing walls from logs – it’s ok to use on the inside.

Anyway, good on ya for building your own. I’m sure ( I hope ) it’s a great feeling. Where do you do your woodworking? Have you now got a matching strawbale shop too?

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posted 02-19-2009 01:42 PM

very nice job on the cabs dennis

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posted 02-19-2009 04:53 PM

“durability” We got the same guys worried about “durability”. These are the same guys that will not let you use a trailer home if it is over a certain age…regardless of condition. What if you only wanted a structure to last your life time and then to be recycled. I very much dislike building codes. I can post just about any horrible perversion on the web, but it is illegal for me to have the electrical outlets in my kitchen 4 1/2 feet apart. If you came to my house I could serve you a drug that will kill one out of thirty people who try it, yet it is illegal for me to build on our family farm (to help my aging parents) because it is under 40 acres (38.5).

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 02-19-2009 05:57 PM

Wow Dennis these pictures are awesome.Living here I would never see this type of building going on.Thanks for posting the pictures.

-- Dustygirl Hastings,Ont. Life is too short to sit around doing nothing

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posted 02-19-2009 06:48 PM

You might be suprised. Over 100 strawbale houses in the Ontario area.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 02-20-2009 11:32 AM

I hear ya Dennis. The whole durability thing in New Zealand is a long story but basically comes down to shoddy construction from greedy builders creating moisture related problems and then an overreaction from the gov’t pushed by the chemical industry lobbyists. So, now, unless you do it yourself or go to extraordinary efforts to source suitable wood (or mud or straw), you end up with CCA soaked, cancer sticks in every part of the house. Do you think we’ll be thanking the legislators 100 years from now for that foresight? (and don’t get me started on why CCA is still allowed here when it has been phased out in most countries already…)

I think using building techniques which have been around for 1000’s of years should automatically trump any local code.

The electrical outlets in my kitchen are 5’ apart. I must be in some grave danger…

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posted 02-20-2009 03:56 PM

I kinda understand the whole government protect the people thing but one of its side effects is that integrity is not a economic factor. I’d think someone who does good work should get more than the slop artist. At least in my experience the quantity guys beat out the quality guys every time. I think every time you hear someone tell you something like “quality is job one” or “built with integrity” you should grab your pocket book and run. The lies are so ingrained in our system we don’t even blink.

-- http://woodsongsfurniture.com

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posted 12-13-2009 07:39 PM

Wow! I have seen your projects on LJ’s and you do great work. I love it.

-- Janice

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posted 12-24-2009 11:24 PM

Super neat I like timberish

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posted 09-06-2020 02:44 PM

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