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Topic by Craftsman on the Lake posted 02-25-2009 02:57 AM 3985 views 1 time favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Craftsman on the Lake

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02-25-2009 02:57 AM

Years ago the end of the house with a hip roof had an addition to extend the building. The old roof is still up there in the shallow attic with the new hip roof extending out from the top of the hip focal point for the new room. The old end wall was was left there. It’s basically under the old eves. I want to take out that wall. It’s about 20 ft long and cuts across the house. I could build a header to replace the wall but don’t want any posts under it. My alternative is to put up an I-beam. I know they work because I have one holding up my garrison garage.

So, the question: The wooden header will be cost effective and easier to install but hang down more and I think I’ll have to have posts. Can anyone let me know if I can put a smaller one up and leave the posts out? If I have to have posts then i’d look into the I-beam.

Thanks.

-- Tryin'



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MRTRIM

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02-25-2009 03:13 AM

have you checked into a laminated beam as opposed to an I beam ? if i have the vision right you could sheetrock it and trim it out like a cased opening

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Craftsman on the Lake

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02-25-2009 03:22 AM

no i haven’t.. is sit stronger than a standard beam made with say, 2×10’s?

-- Tryin'

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MRTRIM

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02-25-2009 03:27 AM

yes id say they are much stronger that 2 by 10 s . its not my area of expertise , so id check with your local supplier as how wide you need at 20 ft.

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Catspaw

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02-26-2009 05:57 AM

You shouldn’t need a header if the new and old roof rafters have proper collar ties. After all the ceiling right before the old hip didn’t need it, neither would the transition area where the old wall would be removed. The new roof takes the load off that particular line.

I can see it in my mind, hard to explain, and would require that the old hip area is reinforced/built/tied just like the preceding roof structure.

-- arborial reconfiguration specialist

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ahock

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05-26-2009 04:47 AM

If they just built the new roof on top of the old one, the wall is carrying more weight than originally, right? If so, you’d need a beam. Sandwiching 2-3 LVL’s together will let you have a shorter beam, that you can install one at a time to make it easier. If you don’t want it sticking down you can add 2×4’s towards the ends of the rafters and ceiling joists, vertically to tie the two together, and then cut the ends off. Slide your beam up in there, use hangers and hang the rafters and ceiling off the side of the beam, this lets the beam be up in the ceiling and not hanging down…

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